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Thread: support for live http for amazon Cloudfront

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    Default support for live http for amazon Cloudfront

    Hello,
    a few days ago support for live flash http streaming was announced for Cloudfront. The solution offered is based on FMS EC2 servers.
    After some testing, I got wowza working out of the box instead of FMS but for vod ; live flash http plays a few mn but then stops.
    Any plan for supporting live http (flash and/or apple) on cloudfront?
    thanks.

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    It sounds like you are using the developer license, which has time limits on live http stream. Developer license is not allowed on EC2 per Wowza EULA.

    You can use full version of Wowza on EC2 with the Wowza EC2 devpay subscription:
    http://www.wowza.com/ec2-streaming.html

    Or you can use a subscription license on EC2.

    Wowza is not involved in Cloudfront, but you can do live http streaming with the full version. You can also do LiveRepeater (origin/edge) with Wowza on EC2.

    Richard

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    Hello Richard,
    no I was using the full license.
    For live streams the OSMF player stopped playing inconsistently (1 mn sometimes 4 mn); and also when restarting it did not catch up the live stream but playing previous chunks.
    From what you write, should I understand that http flash on Cloudfront should work out of the box with a live Wowza stream? did you test it successfully?

    Quote Originally Posted by rrlanham View Post
    It sounds like you are using the developer license, which has time limits on live http stream. Developer license is not allowed on EC2 per Wowza EULA.

    You can use full version of Wowza on EC2 with the Wowza EC2 devpay subscription:
    http://www.wowza.com/ec2-streaming.html

    Or you can use a subscription license on EC2.

    Wowza is not involved in Cloudfront, but you can do live http streaming with the full version. You can also do LiveRepeater (origin/edge) with Wowza on EC2.

    Richard

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    We really are not setup to be a caching origin. That is most likely why it does not work. We are still investigating our options as far as how we work with CloudFront. At this point it is not supported.

    Charlie

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    OK, thanks a lot.

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    Being able to use Wowza as an origin server for CloudFront live streaming would be a great feature indeed.

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    Default Wowza as source for live streaming feature for amazon Cloudfront

    I have talked to the guys at Amazon Web Services booth during Streaming Media Expo last week.
    They said as long as stream published to Cloudfront distribution is http - its possible to do live streaming no matter what the origin server is - FMS or Wowza, hosted on EC2 or outside.
    They said they are very interested to work with Wowza on this - just did not have the chance (anyone from Wowza staff reading this forum - if you have time for this - plz respond and I will send AWS person contact ). They have encouraged users to do their own experimentation and publish it on their community forum.

    I believe its a matter of setting up correct Wowza app config - in case with FMS they generate Manifest file on the fly, but at the end of the day its just the stream setup on Wowza and minimal setup on Cloudfront.

    I am also very interested in getting this to work, just did not have a chance to "poke around"

    Eugene

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    We are interested in supporting this workflow in the future. At this time we have not spent any time researching it to come up with definitive instructions. We are working closely with the amazon team. We do not have a definitive timeframe.

    Charlie

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    I'm very, very interested in this. I'm exploring FMS as an origin server, but really don't want to lose Wowza features like cupertino streaming.

    CloudFront is very appealing as it would remove one of the major complexities in our homegrown app (edge server management).

    I might experiment with some Wowza CloudFormations too... it would be great to have a template that would set up an Origin plus multiple Edges with load balancing already configured.

    Anyway, let us know if you make any progress.

    - david

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    +1. Very interested in this. We're going to try the EC2/FMS setup recommended by Amazon, but since we already have Wowza EC2 instances running as origin servers with load balancing all figured out, we'd rather keep using our existing infrastructure.

    It'd be great to get some guidance on this.

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