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  1. #1
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    Default Multiple errors with Transcoder AddOn

    Hello,

    i'm writting this thread because we got problems with our new server and the transcoder AddOn.
    We use a HP proliant SL 250 s with Nvidia Tesla M2075 to transcode/transrate livestreams. Unfortunately without the success we expected.

    The server has got 72GB Ram so power is no question.

    We set the java heap size to 9000M and added the "-server" to tune wowza but after a while we got the following log and laggy streams:

    2013-01-29	00:34:14	MEZ	comment	server	INFO	200	-	TranscodingSession.updateBehindFilter[live/_definst_/rtlnitro.stream]: Video behind filter state change. New state: SKIP1FRAME	-	-	-	23714.518	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
    2013-01-29	00:34:17	MEZ	comment	server	INFO	200	-	TranscodingSession.updateBehindFilter[live/_definst_/rtl2.stream]: Video behind filter state change. New state: SKIP1FRAME	-	-	-	23717.919	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
    2013-01-29	00:34:17	MEZ	comment	server	INFO	200	-	TranscodingSession.updateBehindFilter[live/_definst_/vox.stream]: Video behind filter state change. New state: SKIP1FRAME	-	-	-	23717.919	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
    2013-01-29	00:34:17	MEZ	comment	server	INFO	200	-	TranscodingSession.updateBehindFilter[live/_definst_/superrtl.stream]: Video behind filter state change. New state: SKIP2FRAME	-	-	-	23717.919	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
    2013-01-29	00:34:17	MEZ	comment	server	INFO	200	-	TranscodingSession.updateBehindFilter[live/_definst_/rtl.stream]: Video behind filter state change. New state: SKIP2FRAME	-	-	-	23717.919	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
    2013-01-29	00:34:17	MEZ	comment	server	INFO	200	-	TranscodingSession.updateBehindFilter[live/_definst_/prosieben.stream]: Video behind filter state change. New state: SKIP2FRAME	-	-	-	23717.919	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
    2013-01-29	00:34:24	MEZ	comment	server	INFO	200	-	TranscodingSession.updateBehindFilter[live/_definst_/prosieben.stream]: Video behind filter state change. New state: KEYFRAMESONLY	-	-	-	23725.031	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
    The commandbox shows the following errors :

    INFO server comment - TranscodingSession.updateBehindFilter[live/_definst_/super
    rtl.stream]: Video behind filter state change. New state: SKIP2FRAME
    INFO server comment - TranscodingSession.updateBehindFilter[live/_definst_/rtl.s
    tream]: Video behind filter state change. New state: SKIP2FRAME
    INFO server comment - TranscodingSession.updateBehindFilter[live/_definst_/prosi
    eben.stream]: Video behind filter state change. New state: SKIP2FRAME
    INFO server comment - TranscodingSession.updateBehindFilter[live/_definst_/prosi
    eben.stream]: Video behind filter state change. New state: KEYFRAMESONLY
    Exception in thread "Thread-25" Exception in thread "Thread-26" Exception in thr
    ead "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.71"
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "LiveStreamTranscoderSorter-live/_definst_/n-tv.stream"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "Thread-24"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "IdleWorkerUtil-0"
    Exception in thread "LiveStreamTranscoderSorter-live/_definst_/channel21.stream"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "LiveStreamTranscoderSorter-live/_definst_/rtl2.stream"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "Thread-25"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "Thread-26"
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.65" Exception in thread "Thread
    -29" Exception in thread "Thread-20"
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "Thread-20"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "vhostWatchdog"
    Exception in thread "Thread-23" Exception in thread "LiveStreamTranscoderSorter-
    live/_definst_/sat1gold.stream"
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.71"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "LiveStreamTranscoderSorter-live/_definst_/rtlnitro.stream"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.17"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "LiveStreamTranscoderSorter-live/_definst_/vox.stream"
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "Thread-29"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "IdleWorkerUtil-1"
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.41"
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.93"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.34"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.90"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.8"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "Thread-30"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.108"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.50"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "LiveStreamTranscoderSorter-live/_definst_/sat1.stream"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostTransport._defaultVHost_.31"
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.9"
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.106"
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.107"
    Exception in thread "VHostTransport._defaultVHost_.70"
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.68"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.49"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.66"
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "LiveStreamTranscoderSorter-live/_definst_/prosieben.stream"
     Exception in thread "Thread-22" Exception in thread "LiveStreamTranscoderSorter
    -live/_definst_/rtl.stream" Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.40"
     Exception in thread "VHostTransport._defaultVHost_.15" Exception in thread "Thr
    ead-21" Exception in thread "IdleWorkerUtil-3" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java
    heap space
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostTransport._defaultVHost_.1"
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.63" Exception in thread "Thread
    -27" Exception in thread "Thread-28"
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostTransport._defaultVHost_.85"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.112"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "Thread-27"
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.70"
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.91"
    
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.69"
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.113"
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.142"
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.109" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
    : GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.47" Exception in thread "VHostH
    andler._defaultVHost_.111" Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.84"
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
            at java.util.Arrays.copyOf(Arrays.java:2219)
            at java.util.ArrayList.grow(ArrayList.java:213)
            at java.util.ArrayList.ensureCapacityInternal(ArrayList.java:187)
            at java.util.ArrayList.addAll(ArrayList.java:532)
            at com.wowza.wms.stream.live.LiveReceiver.a(Unknown Source)
            at com.wowza.wms.stream.live.LiveReceiver.a(Unknown Source)
            at com.wowza.wms.stream.live.LiveReceiver.addVideoData(Unknown Source)
            at com.wowza.wms.stream.live.MediaStreamLive.addVideoData(Unknown Source
    )
            at com.wowza.wms.stream.publish.Publisher.addVideoDataInc(Unknown Source
    )
            at com.wowza.wms.transcoder.model.TranscoderWorkerSortAdder.addVideo(Unk
    nown Source)
            at com.wowza.wms.transcoder.model.TranscoderWorkerSortAdder.run(Unknown
    Source)
            at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.
    java:1110)
            at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor
    .java:603)
            at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:722)
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.102" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
    : Java heap space
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
    Exception in thread "VHostTransport._defaultVHost_.16" java.lang.OutOfMemoryErro
    r: GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.110" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
    : GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.118" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
    : GC overhead limit exceeded
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.83"
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.83" Exception in thread "VHostH
    andler._defaultVHost_.104" Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.99"
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.119" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
    : GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.59" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
     GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.31" Exception in thread "VHostH
    andler._defaultVHost_.37" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.76" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
     Java heap space
    Exception in thread "VHostTransport._defaultVHost_.65" java.lang.OutOfMemoryErro
    r: GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.62" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
     GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.77" Exception in thread "VHostT
    ransport._defaultVHost_.60" Exception in thread "serverWatchdog" Exception in th
    read "VHostTransport._defaultVHost_.45" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead
    limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.46" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
     GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.10" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
     GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.7" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
    GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostTransport._defaultVHost_.34" java.lang.OutOfMemoryErro
    r: GC overhead limit exceeded
            at com.wowza.wms.rtp.depacketizer.RTPPacket.toArray(Unknown Source)
            at com.wowza.wms.media.mpeg2.MPEG2Utils.formatPacket(Unknown Source)
            at com.wowza.wms.rtp.depacketizer.RTPDePacketizerMPEGTS.b(Unknown Source
    )
            at com.wowza.wms.rtp.depacketizer.RTPDePacketizerMPEGTS.handleRTPPacketI
    nner(Unknown Source)
            at com.wowza.wms.rtp.depacketizer.RTPDePacketizerMPEGTS.handleRTPPacket(
    Unknown Source)
            at com.wowza.wms.rtp.model.RTPTrack$HandleRTPMessage.handleMessage(Unkno
    wn Source)
            at com.wowza.wms.rtp.model.RTPPort.handleMessage(Unknown Source)
            at com.wowza.wms.rtp.transport.UDPRunner.run(Unknown Source)
            at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.
    java:1110)
            at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor
    .java:603)
            at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:722)
    Exception in thread "LiveStreamTranscoderSorter-live/_definst_/n24.stream" Excep
    tion in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.48" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java
     heap space
    Exception in thread "LiveStreamTranscoderSorter-live/_definst_/superrtl.stream"
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostTransport._defaultVHost_.40" java.lang.OutOfMemoryErro
    r: Java heap space
    Exception in thread "LiveStreamTranscoderSorter-live/_definst_/kabel1.stream" Ex
    ception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.81" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: G
    C overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "IdleWorkerUtil-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead l
    imit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostTransport._defaultVHost_.47" java.lang.OutOfMemoryErro
    r: GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "Thread-19" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit ex
    ceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
    Exception in thread "VHostTransport._defaultVHost_.21" java.lang.OutOfMemoryErro
    r: Java heap space
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.156" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
    : GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.138" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
    : GC overhead limit exceeded
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.86"
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.86" Exception in thread "VHostH
    andler._defaultVHost_.147" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.56" Exception in thread "VHostH
    andler._defaultVHost_.64" Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.146"
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.55" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
     GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.139" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
    : GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.141" Exception in thread "VHost
    Handler._defaultVHost_.73" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceede
    d
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.105" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
    : GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.72" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
     GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.129" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
    : GC overhead limit exceeded
    
    Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler i
    n thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.109"
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.38" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
     GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.28" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
     GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.19" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
     GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.87" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
     GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.1" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
    GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.101" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
    : GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.5" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
    GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.13" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
     GC overhead limit exceeded
    Exception in thread "VHostHandler._defaultVHost_.144" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
    : GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
    java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded


    Best regards

    Marian

  2. #2
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    We have similar issue with tesla k20 gpus. When the transcoding work, the quality is ugly... We see the same kind of errors ... Video behind filters ...

    we run wowza in windows 2012 standard
    the server is :
    Supermicro - SuperServer 5017GR-TF
    Intel - Xeon E5-2690 2.90 GHz Processor
    128GB ram
    NVIDIA - Tesla K20 M-class PCI-E board 5GB Passive Cooling
    intel x520 dual 10gbps


    here is 1 screen shot in passthru and the other one in h.264 transcoding

    this is with cuda h.264


    any ideas ?

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    Hey,

    we still have the same problems here. We got a K20 this week and will start new tests on monday.

    At the moment we solved our problems by using CPU's instead of any gpu. That is very poor but no other chance.
    If you want to translate only one or two streams i would recommend a blade server. We started by using Hp bl 460c Gen8 with 2 CPU's and 8 cores per.
    We are able to transcode 8 -10 SD TV channels or 4-5 HD TV channels from german television.

    If you are interested in our findings next week feel free to write me a short messanger.

    Best regards from Germany,

    Marian

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    Hi, you should try this setting with the feed

    in the video section use:

    <Parameter>
    <!-- long: NVVE_GPU_OFFLOAD_LEVEL: NVVE_GPU_OFFLOAD_DEFAULT=-1 (default setting for pel processing ), NVVE_GPU_OFFLOAD_ESTIMATORS=8 (pel processing on CPU, Motion Estimation on GPU), NVVE_GPU_OFFLOAD_ALL=16 (pel processing on GPU) -->
    <Name>cuda.GPUOffloadLevel</Name>
    <Value>8</Value>
    <Type>Long</Type>
    </Parameter>
    pel processing on CPU work . so i dont see solutions on this one
    i am wondering if support can help us on this one
    Last edited by jbreault; 04-09-2013 at 10:36 PM.

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    Same problem here. The power of the K20m is amazing but the videosignal looks terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marian04 View Post
    Same problem here. The power of the K20m is amazing but the videosignal looks terrible.

    yes after a long chat with the support. Fermi Gpu are supported and working (i run m2090) its work. Kepler Gpu will should be supported in the future.

    Its really bad. Nvidia also plan to phase out tesla card with fermi gpu real soon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbreault View Post
    yes after a long chat with the support. Fermi Gpu are supported and working (i run m2090) its work. Kepler Gpu will should be supported in the future.

    Its really bad. Nvidia also plan to phase out tesla card with fermi gpu real soon !
    Do you know when the support for Kepler GPU will be integrated ?

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    no , they didn't say ! thats the bad part of the story !

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