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    Hi there ... I've been testing lately later version of JWPlayer that supports HLS. Considering they only support RTMP, it's nice to see they have a plugin for http streaming.
    It has some bugs, but in general it works fine using HLS for live, VOD and extracts of nDVR (Which are treated as VOD)

    Which doesn't work is playing an extract of nDVR with a "wowzadvrplayliststart" and without duration ... meaning, providing the option to watch live or rewind to recorded content ... and go back to live. Something that works on OSMF player for instance.
    I imagine it's because a manifest for that keeps been a live manifest (no end tag), so it's treated as any live manifest. I'm assuming the pluging should need to have some settings or something that let it know that this live stream can also be rewind.

    My question is if Wowza and JWPlayer work together at any level in order to incorporate such feature into the roadmap of the player. I understand it's a pure player thing. Just wondering what could be the best way to get it into their list of features.

    Are you guys in contact with LongTailVideo for requirements like this?


    Thanks

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    I don't think JW Player is using the OSMF framework that is required for nDVR playback. I can't really speak for them, but it doesn't seem like the direction they are taking.

    You can use Flowplayer:
    http://www.wowza.com/forums/content.php?54#DVR

    Or this hosted player:
    http://www.osmf.org/dev/2.0gm/setup.html

    Or the LiveDVRStreaming example that ships with Wowza.

    The latest Strobe player should work too.

    Richard

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    Thanks ... I'd like to use HLS on Websites ... my experience using HDS with some CDNs and Wowza as origin is not as good as HLS is (particularly CloudFront)

    by the way, latest LiveDVRStreaming example shipped with Wowza doesn't work well with nDVR recorded content when it's extracted using Delegate API

    Cheers!!

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    HLS to the desktop is not supported except to Safari on Mac OSX. This may be changing rapidly (Chrome?), but I don't think at this moment it is a practical plan

    Richard

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    it's not supported natively on browsers, but it is using plugins on flash. JWPlayer is an example. VLC does it as well. And there are other examples

    As I said, using HDS with Wowza as origin doesn't work very well with CDNs. They all prefer to have RTMP ingested into CDN and do HDS with their services (which rules out Wowza features, or bring them at a different price level)
    HLS is much stable on CDNs

    PS: Just talking about my experience though

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    Quote Originally Posted by tavius View Post
    Hi there ... I've been testing lately later version of JWPlayer that supports HLS. Considering they only support RTMP, it's nice to see they have a plugin for http streaming.
    It has some bugs, but in general it works fine using HLS for live, VOD and extracts of nDVR (Which are treated as VOD)

    Which doesn't work is playing an extract of nDVR with a "wowzadvrplayliststart" and without duration ... meaning, providing the option to watch live or rewind to recorded content ... and go back to live. Something that works on OSMF player for instance.
    I imagine it's because a manifest for that keeps been a live manifest (no end tag), so it's treated as any live manifest. I'm assuming the pluging should need to have some settings or something that let it know that this live stream can also be rewind.

    My question is if Wowza and JWPlayer work together at any level in order to incorporate such feature into the roadmap of the player. I understand it's a pure player thing. Just wondering what could be the best way to get it into their list of features.

    Are you guys in contact with LongTailVideo for requirements like this?


    Thanks
    I spoke with LongtailVideo about this, and they have HLS with DVR on their roadmap. They could speak more directly as to when his might be in he player.

    Scott

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    Thanks Scott ... nice to hear it's in the list. I still prefer HLS and Smooth over HDS, so looking forward to this

    Cheers

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