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Thread: Flash is dying... how will I live stream with Wowza to web browsers? is HTML5 ready?

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    Question Flash is dying... how will I live stream with Wowza to web browsers? is HTML5 ready?

    Hi, I read today that Firefox is blocking Flsah by default (http://gizmodo.com/firefox-now-block...ult-1717664482) and it seems that everybody is waiting for Flash to die.

    This is very bad for my streaming app, I have a Wowza Media Server 3 Perpetual Edition 3.6.2 build5334 to do RTMP streaming, and it worked well for years.

    I know that HLS works through HTML5 for Apple devices, but it seems this wont work on Windows and in Android is working so-so...

    There is another way, or some way that we can know it works for sure? in the forums I couldn't find good answers...

    Thanks in advice.

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    I'd like to second this question.

    from what I've seen mpeg-dash seems to be dying on the vine. Youtube is able to stream to firefox and chrome without flash but I can't figure out how and I don't know if wowza can help me?

    example of youtube live.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4R...I7CAwX8_LjQHig

    I'm running 4.1.0 with an update to 4.2.0 as soon as I get approval.

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    HTML 5 video playback is possible using the Safari web browser on iOS and Mac OS X. I've seen it work on other browsers, but not reliably. You can try it yourself by inserting this code into an HTML page and referencing an HLS stream from your Wowza server, as an example:
    <html>
      <head> 
        <title>HTML 5 Test</title> 
      </head> 
      <body> 
        <video width="640" height="400" controls="controls" src="http://[wowza-ip-address]:1935/live/myStream/playlist.m3u8">
        </video> 
      </body> 
    </html>
    You may also want to take a look at the player offering from JW Player, which uses Apple HLS/HTML 5 and RTMP/Flash, depending on the platform. It's a great solution.

    Regards,

    Salvadore

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    If you right click jwplayer , it uses flash as well so its not real solution. Video tag with m3u8 will only work on Android / iOS .
    Last edited by sdabhi; 07-15-2015 at 07:39 AM.

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    JWPlayer has a flash fallback, when using a RTMP stream, but if it receives the path to a HLS stream, it will use the HTML5 video tag.

    Take a look at WebRTC too, firefox uses it for it's chat application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublej42 View Post
    Youtube is able to stream to firefox and chrome without flash but I can't figure out how and I don't know if wowza can help me?

    example of youtube live.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4R...I7CAwX8_LjQHig
    doublej42, I tried to watch the streamings in your links but at first I couldn't because Firefox blocked the Flash plugin! It seems that in browsers Youtube is still doing it with Flash...

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    WebRTC seems to be the solution we're all searching for. HLS (HTML5) is not a good alternative to RTMP since it has such a high latency, changing the definition of real time to "maybe in 30 seconds" time. I'm really hoping Wowza releases WebRTC support very soon. Otherwise we're going to feel the pain of less folks using Flash.

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    what about Media Source Extensions? I understand that Wowza 4 has MSE support, and it is supported on most major browsers (except iOS, so we could keep HLS for iOS)

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    Google plans to start blocking Flash in Chrome this year
    http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/15/11...ash-later-2016
    I wonder what are the plans for the streaming community to deal with flash being gradually phased out from browsers?
    Are browsers going to offer support for streaming protocols such as HLS or RTMP in HTML5?

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    Hello,

    Support for WebRTC is on the road map but is not yet supported in the latest Wowza release.

    As this continues to develop, more information will become available.

    Best regards,
    Andrew

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